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		<title>Comment on Converting an ArcGIS 10 GDB to ArcGIS 9.3 or earlier by Peter Veenstra</title>
		<link>http://pdgisusers.org/2010/07/23/converting-an-arcgis-10-gdb-to-arcgis-9-3-or-earlier/#comment-598</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Veenstra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This does work (using Python to create the 9.3 geodatabase). But how do you script the copy? Copy and paste is nice but you can&#039;t do that if you try to batch this process. The copy_management command insists on creating a new output personal geodatabase and guess what? It doesn&#039;t allow you to choose the new format for the output workspalce.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This does work (using Python to create the 9.3 geodatabase). But how do you script the copy? Copy and paste is nice but you can&#8217;t do that if you try to batch this process. The copy_management command insists on creating a new output personal geodatabase and guess what? It doesn&#8217;t allow you to choose the new format for the output workspalce.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Navfree Update 1.7.1 by pdusers</title>
		<link>http://pdgisusers.org/2011/04/06/navfree-update-1-7-1/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pdusers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Version 1.9.1 has been out for a while now. Most of the issues I mention above have been corrected. 

• Many addresses are not in the database - I discovered that if you Google search the address in the app, most times it will take you exactly where you want to go.

• Charging – The Charging issue seems to have been resolved. Don&#039;t expect to be able to charge your phone quickly while using this app, but at least your battery will not stall in charging or continue to discharge while hooked up to a power source. 

• In my brief testing the app was slow to update your position on the map. This has been resolved as well. 

In summary, the app continues to be a great one since it&#039;s free, but there are still issues. For instance, look closely before taking an exit as many times the app will route you off the exit ramp and then directly back onto the highway on ramp simply because it&#039;s a more direct route.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Version 1.9.1 has been out for a while now. Most of the issues I mention above have been corrected. </p>
<p>• Many addresses are not in the database &#8211; I discovered that if you Google search the address in the app, most times it will take you exactly where you want to go.</p>
<p>• Charging – The Charging issue seems to have been resolved. Don&#8217;t expect to be able to charge your phone quickly while using this app, but at least your battery will not stall in charging or continue to discharge while hooked up to a power source. </p>
<p>• In my brief testing the app was slow to update your position on the map. This has been resolved as well. </p>
<p>In summary, the app continues to be a great one since it&#8217;s free, but there are still issues. For instance, look closely before taking an exit as many times the app will route you off the exit ramp and then directly back onto the highway on ramp simply because it&#8217;s a more direct route.</p>
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		<title>Comment on GISP Certification Workshop &#8211; Save the Date by trippcor</title>
		<link>http://pdgisusers.org/2011/10/19/gisp-certification-workshop-save-the-date/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[trippcor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ONLINE REGISTRATION LINK
http://northcarolina.apwa.net/events/8377/
You are required to make an account on the APWA site, but you are not required to be a member. The online registration will allow for credit card payment or you can &quot;pay at door&quot; the day of the conference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ONLINE REGISTRATION LINK<br />
<a href="http://northcarolina.apwa.net/events/8377/" rel="nofollow">http://northcarolina.apwa.net/events/8377/</a><br />
You are required to make an account on the APWA site, but you are not required to be a member. The online registration will allow for credit card payment or you can &#8220;pay at door&#8221; the day of the conference.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Converting an ArcGIS 10 GDB to ArcGIS 9.3 or earlier by EG</title>
		<link>http://pdgisusers.org/2010/07/23/converting-an-arcgis-10-gdb-to-arcgis-9-3-or-earlier/#comment-299</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 08:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Works fine, indeed !

You simply have to create a new empty gdb in 9.3 format, and then copy and paste the object classes from the ArcGIS 10 gdb to this new ArcGIS 9.3 gdb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Works fine, indeed !</p>
<p>You simply have to create a new empty gdb in 9.3 format, and then copy and paste the object classes from the ArcGIS 10 gdb to this new ArcGIS 9.3 gdb.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Converting an ArcGIS 10 GDB to ArcGIS 9.3 or earlier by EG</title>
		<link>http://pdgisusers.org/2010/07/23/converting-an-arcgis-10-gdb-to-arcgis-9-3-or-earlier/#comment-298</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 08:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Works fine, indeed !

You simply have to create a new empty gdb in 9.3 format, and the copy and paste the object classes from the ArcGIS 10 gdb to this new ArcGIS 9.3 gdb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Works fine, indeed !</p>
<p>You simply have to create a new empty gdb in 9.3 format, and the copy and paste the object classes from the ArcGIS 10 gdb to this new ArcGIS 9.3 gdb.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Converting an ArcGIS 10 GDB to ArcGIS 9.3 or earlier by Tripp Corbin</title>
		<link>http://pdgisusers.org/2010/07/23/converting-an-arcgis-10-gdb-to-arcgis-9-3-or-earlier/#comment-289</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tripp Corbin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 16:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a matter of fact I have. Used them this morning to create a 9.3 GDB. No problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a matter of fact I have. Used them this morning to create a 9.3 GDB. No problems.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Converting an ArcGIS 10 GDB to ArcGIS 9.3 or earlier by Brent Kastor</title>
		<link>http://pdgisusers.org/2010/07/23/converting-an-arcgis-10-gdb-to-arcgis-9-3-or-earlier/#comment-288</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brent Kastor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 13:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has anyone tested the Toolbox in ArcCatalog - &quot;Data Management Tools&quot; - &quot;Workspace&quot;?

Using ArcGIS 10, there is an option to create a GDB and choose which version GDB you would like: 10, 9.3, 9.2, etc.

Brent Kastor, GISP
GIS Administrator
RS&amp;H, Inc.
904.256.2373]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone tested the Toolbox in ArcCatalog &#8211; &#8220;Data Management Tools&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;Workspace&#8221;?</p>
<p>Using ArcGIS 10, there is an option to create a GDB and choose which version GDB you would like: 10, 9.3, 9.2, etc.</p>
<p>Brent Kastor, GISP<br />
GIS Administrator<br />
RS&amp;H, Inc.<br />
904.256.2373</p>
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		<title>Comment on Service Pack 2 for ArcGIS 10 released by Tripp Corbin</title>
		<link>http://pdgisusers.org/2011/05/10/service-pack-2-for-arcgis-10-released/#comment-286</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tripp Corbin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 12:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like several others are reporting issues with SP 2. Several folks on the North Carolina GIS email list server have reported issues opening MXDs that worked fine prior to installing the SP 2. After the install of SP 2 the MXDs would not open. They spent several hours on the phone with Esri Support and finally had to uninstall the SP to fix the problem. 

So I would recommend holding off on installing SP 2. Sounds like it has several issues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like several others are reporting issues with SP 2. Several folks on the North Carolina GIS email list server have reported issues opening MXDs that worked fine prior to installing the SP 2. After the install of SP 2 the MXDs would not open. They spent several hours on the phone with Esri Support and finally had to uninstall the SP to fix the problem. </p>
<p>So I would recommend holding off on installing SP 2. Sounds like it has several issues.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are you going to take one of the new Esri certification Exams? by Tripp Corbin</title>
		<link>http://pdgisusers.org/2011/04/11/are-you-going-to-take-one-of-the-new-esri-certification-exams/#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tripp Corbin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As promised, here are the final results from the survey I posted last week asking if folks were planning to take one of the new Esri Technical certification exams. The survey is now closed with 243 responses. Thanks to everyone that took the time to respond. I thing the results are interesting. I have included some thoughts as well. 

So here are the results to date with 243 responders:
1. Have you heard of the new Esri Technical Certifications?
   a.	81% Yes
   b.	18% No
   c.	1% No response

2. Are you planning to take one of the Certification Exams?
   a.	39.5% Yes
   b.	39.5% No
   c.	20.5% No response

3. If you are planning to take an exam which ones are your considering? (Multiple answers allowed)
   a.	Desktop Associate – 59.7%
   b.	Desktop Professional – 68.4%
   c.	Web Application Developer Associate – 11.9%
   d.	Geodatabase Management Associate – 29.3%
   e.	Enterprise Admin Associate – 19.5%

4. If you are not planning to take an exam, why? (Multiple choices allowed)
   a.	Cost – 46.7%
   b.	Don’t see value in these certifications – 50.0%
   c.	Don’t see value in certifications in general – 11.9%
   d.	Don’t have time to prepare – 22.8%
   e.	Employer doesn’t care about certification – 48.9%
   f.	Other – 21.7%
        i. Using other than Esri GIS Tools
        ii. Cost/Benefit
        iii. No local testing center
        iv. Already GISP
        v. Don’t have the needed tech knowledge yet
        vi. Just another ploy to get more money

5. What are you doing to prepare for the exam? (Multiple choices allowed)
   a.	Nothing, just planning to use my experience – 31.7%
   b.	Taking Esri’s Review Class – 28.2%
   c.	Taking Esri classes recommended on Certification website – 25.8%
   d.	Taking classes from someone other than Esri – 10.5%
   e.	Getting together with a local study group – 10.5%
   f.	Signed up for on-line practice exams -10.5 %
   g.	Self Study – 48.2%
   h.	Other – 12.9%

So there are the results as promised. It is interesting that there is almost an even split between those that are planning to take the exam and those that aren’t. Based on the comments there seems to be two common threads for those that aren’t taking the exam. The first is cost. They just don’t have the money to pay the testing fee let alone money for any training or preparation. They cannot get their employers to pay for it either. Which leads to the second reason folks seem to be in the no category on this questions, they or their employer doesn’t see much value in them.

For a seasoned veteran of the GIS trenches with years of experience and maybe the GISP certification under their belt, it might be hard to see much value in one of these new certifications. In general I would agree. The comments from the survey would sure seem to support this as well. It seems to be the general consensus. However I think we have all known at least one person that has had years of experience but really knew very little beyond one area of specialty or function. These exams are a good way to prove you are a well rounded user; one that really knows your way around the software even for veteran Esri users.  Depending on your career path being a well rounded user might not be a concern. 

I do think employers will find these certifications a handy tool if they are an Esri based shop. It is a quick and easy way to determine if someone has a specific skill level. This can be especially helpful if the person responsible for hiring is not a GIS Professional or Esri user. 

The last big reason I saw in the comments for not taking the exam was the need to possibly recertify with each new release. While I can see this would be somewhat frustrating and might even been seen as just a ploy to grab more money from the user base, it is the common and accepted practice in the software industry. Those of us in the IT field have been dealing with this for a long time. There are valid reasons for doing it this way. First as we know software changes, sometimes in very significant ways. Look at the differences between ArcGIS 9.3 and 10. Certifications  which  allow you to claim you have certain skill levels must reflect these changes or they truly have no value. While I can’t speak for Esri, I know in the past Microsoft has had specific upgrade exams which allow you to easily upgrade your certifications from one version to another. These exams test existing certified users only on those features that have changed. These upgrade exams are often offered at reduced rates. It is my hope that Esri might follow this example. 

There are my 2 cents for what they are worth. I certainly don’t see this as a replacement for the GISP as it only focuses on how to use Esri software and not a more thorough understanding of GIS concepts and theory. However it can be a useful tool for those that use Esri software as their primary GIS platform.  For more information directly from Esri click on the links below.

http://training.esri.com/acb2000/showdetl.cfm?DID=6&amp;Product_ID=1003 – Recorded Webinar
http://www.esri.com/news/arcnews/spring11articles/gisp-and-technical-certification-programs-are-complementary.html - Comparison of GIS and Esri Tech Certifications.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As promised, here are the final results from the survey I posted last week asking if folks were planning to take one of the new Esri Technical certification exams. The survey is now closed with 243 responses. Thanks to everyone that took the time to respond. I thing the results are interesting. I have included some thoughts as well. </p>
<p>So here are the results to date with 243 responders:<br />
1. Have you heard of the new Esri Technical Certifications?<br />
   a.	81% Yes<br />
   b.	18% No<br />
   c.	1% No response</p>
<p>2. Are you planning to take one of the Certification Exams?<br />
   a.	39.5% Yes<br />
   b.	39.5% No<br />
   c.	20.5% No response</p>
<p>3. If you are planning to take an exam which ones are your considering? (Multiple answers allowed)<br />
   a.	Desktop Associate – 59.7%<br />
   b.	Desktop Professional – 68.4%<br />
   c.	Web Application Developer Associate – 11.9%<br />
   d.	Geodatabase Management Associate – 29.3%<br />
   e.	Enterprise Admin Associate – 19.5%</p>
<p>4. If you are not planning to take an exam, why? (Multiple choices allowed)<br />
   a.	Cost – 46.7%<br />
   b.	Don’t see value in these certifications – 50.0%<br />
   c.	Don’t see value in certifications in general – 11.9%<br />
   d.	Don’t have time to prepare – 22.8%<br />
   e.	Employer doesn’t care about certification – 48.9%<br />
   f.	Other – 21.7%<br />
        i. Using other than Esri GIS Tools<br />
        ii. Cost/Benefit<br />
        iii. No local testing center<br />
        iv. Already GISP<br />
        v. Don’t have the needed tech knowledge yet<br />
        vi. Just another ploy to get more money</p>
<p>5. What are you doing to prepare for the exam? (Multiple choices allowed)<br />
   a.	Nothing, just planning to use my experience – 31.7%<br />
   b.	Taking Esri’s Review Class – 28.2%<br />
   c.	Taking Esri classes recommended on Certification website – 25.8%<br />
   d.	Taking classes from someone other than Esri – 10.5%<br />
   e.	Getting together with a local study group – 10.5%<br />
   f.	Signed up for on-line practice exams -10.5 %<br />
   g.	Self Study – 48.2%<br />
   h.	Other – 12.9%</p>
<p>So there are the results as promised. It is interesting that there is almost an even split between those that are planning to take the exam and those that aren’t. Based on the comments there seems to be two common threads for those that aren’t taking the exam. The first is cost. They just don’t have the money to pay the testing fee let alone money for any training or preparation. They cannot get their employers to pay for it either. Which leads to the second reason folks seem to be in the no category on this questions, they or their employer doesn’t see much value in them.</p>
<p>For a seasoned veteran of the GIS trenches with years of experience and maybe the GISP certification under their belt, it might be hard to see much value in one of these new certifications. In general I would agree. The comments from the survey would sure seem to support this as well. It seems to be the general consensus. However I think we have all known at least one person that has had years of experience but really knew very little beyond one area of specialty or function. These exams are a good way to prove you are a well rounded user; one that really knows your way around the software even for veteran Esri users.  Depending on your career path being a well rounded user might not be a concern. </p>
<p>I do think employers will find these certifications a handy tool if they are an Esri based shop. It is a quick and easy way to determine if someone has a specific skill level. This can be especially helpful if the person responsible for hiring is not a GIS Professional or Esri user. </p>
<p>The last big reason I saw in the comments for not taking the exam was the need to possibly recertify with each new release. While I can see this would be somewhat frustrating and might even been seen as just a ploy to grab more money from the user base, it is the common and accepted practice in the software industry. Those of us in the IT field have been dealing with this for a long time. There are valid reasons for doing it this way. First as we know software changes, sometimes in very significant ways. Look at the differences between ArcGIS 9.3 and 10. Certifications  which  allow you to claim you have certain skill levels must reflect these changes or they truly have no value. While I can’t speak for Esri, I know in the past Microsoft has had specific upgrade exams which allow you to easily upgrade your certifications from one version to another. These exams test existing certified users only on those features that have changed. These upgrade exams are often offered at reduced rates. It is my hope that Esri might follow this example. </p>
<p>There are my 2 cents for what they are worth. I certainly don’t see this as a replacement for the GISP as it only focuses on how to use Esri software and not a more thorough understanding of GIS concepts and theory. However it can be a useful tool for those that use Esri software as their primary GIS platform.  For more information directly from Esri click on the links below.</p>
<p><a href="http://training.esri.com/acb2000/showdetl.cfm?DID=6&#038;Product_ID=1003" rel="nofollow">http://training.esri.com/acb2000/showdetl.cfm?DID=6&#038;Product_ID=1003</a> – Recorded Webinar<br />
<a href="http://www.esri.com/news/arcnews/spring11articles/gisp-and-technical-certification-programs-are-complementary.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.esri.com/news/arcnews/spring11articles/gisp-and-technical-certification-programs-are-complementary.html</a> &#8211; Comparison of GIS and Esri Tech Certifications.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Converting an ArcGIS 10 GDB to ArcGIS 9.3 or earlier by Shane Peden</title>
		<link>http://pdgisusers.org/2010/07/23/converting-an-arcgis-10-gdb-to-arcgis-9-3-or-earlier/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shane Peden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve dug around a bit too and this is the only way I&#039;ve found to convert a GIS 10 File Geodatabase back to 9.3 format.

Its quite a few steps just to do something that should probably be a simple right click of the mouse to do!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve dug around a bit too and this is the only way I&#8217;ve found to convert a GIS 10 File Geodatabase back to 9.3 format.</p>
<p>Its quite a few steps just to do something that should probably be a simple right click of the mouse to do!</p>
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